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King of Fighters.

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Here's my idea for a style change from Korah to Ken:
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If your wondering what happened to ken's blade, I made it into a Seven Strike:
https://media.photobucket.com/image/Seven%20strike%20Okami/auraangel13/Okami/SevenStrike.jpg

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Look good to me.
Any complaints?

Also, that seven strike needs work (sprite, not art =P)
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Undefined outline and most likely difficult to sprite are my complaints.

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The outline is defined. At least from my view of a defined outline.
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It's not consistent. In some characters, they have black outlines and some don't. And sometimes they have a black outline on those characters and sometimes don't. It's very inconsistent.

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Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
It's not consistent. In some characters, they have black outlines and some don't. And sometimes they have a black outline on those characters and sometimes don't. It's very inconsistent.
I can fix that.
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Show me.

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FYI, if we DID use KoF style, we'd be able to use those awesome SFX Snow gave you, NF.
*hint hint*

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Is this still open for debate, or what?
'Cause I don't think we've actually come to an open agreement yet.

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Aiden wrote:
Is this still open for debate, or what?
'Cause I don't think we've actually come to an open agreement yet.
Yes, my friend Ocon will be making some sprites to so.

Hopefully, soon.
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I say we keep JUS for much longer. Aye?

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Oh. Really?
Well, I guess so.
How much longer?
'Cause I found a game with sprites that don't use that much shading for the PSX.
Check it out.
It looks pretty cool from an artistic standpoint, methinks.

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Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
I say we keep JUS for much longer. Aye?
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This something Ocon did, but not what I asked him to do, he has not yet sent me the sprites:
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Like the style?
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Don't Suli and Ocon sprite in the same style? Cause Suli made Angell in his and I didn't really like it, not enough to sprite it anyway.
Aiden wrote:
Oh. Really?
Well, I guess so.
How much longer?
'Cause I found a game with sprites that don't use that much shading for the PSX.
Check it out.
It looks pretty cool from an artistic standpoint, methinks.
I like this idea, however.

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I don't like the PSX one very much. Ocon's style is pretty good, I'm just wondering how tough it would be to make animations for it.

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I'm surprised that none of you realized that the style that Ocon and Suli use

is JUS.
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Those sprites are not JUS.

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Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
Those sprites are not JUS.

Yes they are. They're JUS in the same theory that those "new" TLOK sprites that Deux made months ago are. They follow all of the perennial dictums of the style while going just outside the lines, almost a modded JUS if you will.

Each sprite has a 3-4 color shading pattern with a near-universal light source in a pattern so unreadable it's easier to just randomly shade in areas until it looks good enough, with an outline, albeit being pure black, is a shade or separate color that distinguishes not only the outline from the entire body, but parts of the body from other parts, or clothing.

In addition, there is no absolute rule in JUS that every attack needs to have the specialized kind of motion blur that regularly appear, but the altered state of "anime physics" applies in JUS, allowing for rapid and nonsensical motions presented at viewable speeds.

Do you get it?
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I see what you're saying, but there are so many elements that make these sprites different that causes it to make it not much JUS. However, if we would convert our style to any of these new styles, we could just edit our sheets into a new style, thereby making the process much better, would it not?

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Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
I see what you're saying, but there are so many elements that make these sprites different that causes it to make it not much JUS. However, if we would convert our style to any of these new styles, we could just edit our sheets into a new style, thereby making the process much better, would it not?

Well, depends on what flavor you choose.

The only real thing that makes it easier is that we already have good enough anatomy and motion blurs that we just have to up the style, and that alone can be a problem.
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Where is the problem in JUS style anyways? SMBZ is a very popular show in it uses M&L style, and that style is horrible.

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No it's not, it just doesn't match anything else. I still like Ocon's style.
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Everything will never match unless we make our own custom style, which would be impossible to perfect without spending an emense amount of time.

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