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[quote="Deux Ex Jinzo[Nac]"]
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That game sucks to be honest, but that's a good style.
I lub Fear Unlimited, but okay i understand why some people dun like it.
Its a fun stlye and should be attempted.

The style is a static screen beat them all... basically, you stay on a single place, and enemies come to you...
it's very simple, but some people love it for that.

It's a big problem though, and that's it that the game gets old very soon after playing it.
I bet there is no game that you can play more than half an hour before it becomes old.

On the other hand, some little "variation" of the system can make those games 1000 times funnier.... a good example is Odin Sphere.
The game is an "static-screen beat them all", but it allows exploration... I know it sounds contradictory, but it's not... The battle system is very limited (which is bad), but in general, it's a good game.
You should really check it out.

NF wrote:
That game sucks to be honest, but that's a good style.


Are you kidding me? "Suck" is a kind word. That game deserves a lot worst than that.


[/quote="Deux Ex Jinzo]

Sounds like DMC to me.
But I think Nac's being a bit to harsh on FU IMO.

But then again, just my opinion.
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Well, I don't like hack and slashes for this style because TLOK isn't just about mindless violence. There's story involved, and Hack And Slashes aren't very well in that departement. And at the same time, RPG doesn't fit too well either, because RPGs focus too much on the story and doesn't show the full fighting capacity that TLOK takes on. Thus why we need something in between.

LIKE TLOZ STYLE
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Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
Well, I don't like hack and slashes for this style because TLOK isn't just about mindless violence. There's story involved, and Hack And Slashes aren't very well in that departement. And at the same time, RPG doesn't fit too well either, because RPGs focus too much on the story and doesn't show the full fighting capacity that TLOK takes on. Thus why we need something in between.

LIKE TLOZ STYLE

Actually FU and DMC aren't senseless violence.

There senseless violence with a story involved, plus Dimziz is a brillant artist,
I've seen his work on Concept art.

You have to play throught the whole game to get the whole story.
Like DMC.
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I've played all the DMCs. The story is awful.
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Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
I've played all the DMCs. The story is awful.

.........
Lies.. all lies...


I love everything about DMC!
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...There was a story to all of those?
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...There was a story to all of those?
Something about demons. I hate demonic games.
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Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
Well, I don't like hack and slashes for this style because TLOK isn't just about mindless violence. There's story involved, and Hack And Slashes aren't very well in that departement. And at the same time, RPG doesn't fit too well either, because RPGs focus too much on the story and doesn't show the full fighting capacity that TLOK takes on. Thus why we need something in between.

LIKE TLOZ STYLE
I'm gonna have to go with you on this one...

The only ideas I can see better than that is a Fighter, or a Platformer.
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Snow Taradien wrote:
Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
Well, I don't like hack and slashes for this style because TLOK isn't just about mindless violence. There's story involved, and Hack And Slashes aren't very well in that departement. And at the same time, RPG doesn't fit too well either, because RPGs focus too much on the story and doesn't show the full fighting capacity that TLOK takes on. Thus why we need something in between.

LIKE TLOZ STYLE
I'm gonna have to go with you on this one...

The only ideas I can see better than that is a Fighter, or a Platformer.

...TLOK Platformer.

Anyways, I'm thinking we should take work off of Korah for these. Much like other companies do when they have games made, they dictate other comapnies to produce. So, I propose we, the contributers and undying fanbase, make the games under his and Snow's supervision. They also don't necessarily have to be made in flash.
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Chaosvii7 wrote:
...There was a story to all of those?
Story 1: Stop Mundus, ruler of the Demon World from coming to the human world and screwing everyone over.

Story 2: Okay i don't like DMC 2, but help some girl and her mom from a russian psychopath from unleashing Argosax the Chaos, and take him down.

Story 3: DMC 3 is best game evah JSYK,
Dante must stop his brother twin Brother Vergil from unleashing the Temin-guru a portal to the demon world to the Human World, and gathering the power of their father Sparda who has like God powers.

Story 4: You play as the New Kid, Nero.
You and his arm of awesomeness must avenge the pope and stop Dante who apparently turns bad.
Off course he's not.
Nero learns the pope is evil and he;s made a giat statue of Sparda and claims he's god.
Its a good story.
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Deuxelim wrote:
Argosax the Chaos

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Snow Taradien wrote:
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Well, I don't like hack and slashes for this style because TLOK isn't just about mindless violence. There's story involved, and Hack And Slashes aren't very well in that departement. And at the same time, RPG doesn't fit too well either, because RPGs focus too much on the story and doesn't show the full fighting capacity that TLOK takes on. Thus why we need something in between.

LIKE TLOZ STYLE
I'm gonna have to go with you on this one...

The only ideas I can see better than that is a Fighter, or a Platformer.
Fighters aren't that great in story either. The only fighting games I can think of with a decent story are SSBB and MKVSDC, and those lacked depth. Platformer would be the next best thing, but the thing about platformers that makes them fun are the random powerups, floating bricks/hooks/spikes etc., and that doesn't fit TLOK either.
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Snow Taradien wrote:
Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
Well, I don't like hack and slashes for this style because TLOK isn't just about mindless violence. There's story involved, and Hack And Slashes aren't very well in that departement. And at the same time, RPG doesn't fit too well either, because RPGs focus too much on the story and doesn't show the full fighting capacity that TLOK takes on. Thus why we need something in between.

LIKE TLOZ STYLE
I'm gonna have to go with you on this one...

The only ideas I can see better than that is a Fighter, or a Platformer.

...TLOK Platformer.

Anyways, I'm thinking we should take work off of Korah for these. Much like other companies do when they have games made, they dictate other comapnies to produce. So, I propose we, the contributers and undying fanbase, make the games under his and Snow's supervision. They also don't necessarily have to be made in flash.
I could program too...

It's just something to do in my spare time.
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Chaosvii7 wrote:
Deuxelim wrote:
Argosax the Chaos

lawsuit
*Sigh*

you do relize how many legendary demons are in DMC.

Berial
Echidna
Agni and Rudra
Leviathan


the whole DMC universe is based of Dante's Inferno.
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Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:

Chaosvii7 wrote:
Snow Taradien wrote:
Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
Well, I don't like hack and slashes for this style because TLOK isn't just about mindless violence. There's story involved, and Hack And Slashes aren't very well in that departement. And at the same time, RPG doesn't fit too well either, because RPGs focus too much on the story and doesn't show the full fighting capacity that TLOK takes on. Thus why we need something in between.

LIKE TLOZ STYLE
I'm gonna have to go with you on this one...

The only ideas I can see better than that is a Fighter, or a Platformer.

...TLOK Platformer.

Anyways, I'm thinking we should take work off of Korah for these. Much like other companies do when they have games made, they dictate other comapnies to produce. So, I propose we, the contributers and undying fanbase, make the games under his and Snow's supervision. They also don't necessarily have to be made in flash.
I could program too...

It's just something to do in my spare time.

Well, you've got so much going on.

Deuxelim wrote:
Chaosvii7 wrote:
Deuxelim wrote:
Argosax the Chaos

lawsuit
*Sigh*

you do relize how many legendary demons are in DMC.

Berial
Echidna
Agni and Rudra
Leviathan


the whole DMC universe is based of Dante's Inferno.

Dear god, it was a joke.
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I know. I wish I had sideways eight amount of time.
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Chaosvii7 wrote:
Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:

Chaosvii7 wrote:
Snow Taradien wrote:
Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
Well, I don't like hack and slashes for this style because TLOK isn't just about mindless violence. There's story involved, and Hack And Slashes aren't very well in that departement. And at the same time, RPG doesn't fit too well either, because RPGs focus too much on the story and doesn't show the full fighting capacity that TLOK takes on. Thus why we need something in between.

LIKE TLOZ STYLE
I'm gonna have to go with you on this one...

The only ideas I can see better than that is a Fighter, or a Platformer.

...TLOK Platformer.

Anyways, I'm thinking we should take work off of Korah for these. Much like other companies do when they have games made, they dictate other comapnies to produce. So, I propose we, the contributers and undying fanbase, make the games under his and Snow's supervision. They also don't necessarily have to be made in flash.
I could program too...

It's just something to do in my spare time.

Well, you've got so much going on.

Deuxelim wrote:
Chaosvii7 wrote:
Deuxelim wrote:
Argosax the Chaos

lawsuit
*Sigh*

you do relize how many legendary demons are in DMC.

Berial
Echidna
Agni and Rudra
Leviathan


the whole DMC universe is based of Dante's Inferno.

Dear god, it was a joke.


Oh....











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Korah Hyoutetsu wrote:
I know. I wish I had sideways eight amount of time.

I have 82 hours of time.

I could totally do something.
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How about instead of a Hax and Slasher we just have a free roaming Beat em with the Story.

I'm in the making of one now.

No, not the Dinosaur one.
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Eh, I was thinking a fighter along the lines of Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.
Before and after battle there are conversations between the characters, usually long and in depth.
And between fights are short cutscenes telling more story.

Every character follows his/her own storyline.

As for your point on platformer...
Well...
Can't argue with that for the most part, but then again there is a series called... oh I don't know...
Megaman!

Yeah, a game like the Megaman Zero games would fit perfectly.
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Deuxelim wrote:
How about instead of a Hax and Slasher we just have a free roaming Beat em with the Story.

I'm in the making of one now.

No, not the Dinosaur one.

How about a totally unique gameplay style and system that doesn't copy any other one.

Or perhaps we could have an 8-bit Megaman hack...

WITH SEXY 8-BIT DEUX
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Side Scrollers would be the best option, IMO. Kinda like Castle Crashers.

Personaly, I liked old styled games. I could make 8 bit Korah, kinda like what im doing now.
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He's right, MMZ and MMZX are perfect examples of such.

Or we could go playsome Okami.
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Deuxelim wrote:
He's right, MMZ and MMZX are perfect examples of such.

Or we could go playsome Okami.

MMZ/MMZX style FTW.
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Snow Taradien wrote:
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He's right, MMZ and MMZX are perfect examples of such.

Or we could go playsome Okami.

MMZ/MMZX style FTW.
Amen Bro.

More liek Capcom FTW.
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So...TLOK Sidescroller.

8-bit with MMZ/16-Bit effects?

That follows the plot?
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